And their word will eat as doth
a canker: or whom is Hymenaeus
and Philetus: who concerning the
truth have erred, saying that the
resurrection is past already: and
overthrow the faith of some.
2Timothy 2:17-18
Paul when writing to Timothy was warning not only Timothy but all Christians as this letter as well as all other letters were sent around to be read by other congregations. Heretics are those from within the Church that are preaching a gospel that is not a gospel. Those sinners outside the Church may speak of heresy, even fall prey to heresy but the canker that will destroy the faith of many comes from within the Church by those who preach a gospel that is not the Gospel. We read in our study of 1Thessalonians 5:21 that we are test all things and hold fast to the good and this is what I am going to do and to aid you to do the same. I include references for you, and I will do as Paul did, name names. I will not comment on what I haves gleaned from several articles and sites so that you can just read this for yourself and see whether or not this man, and others as I bring them to light fit what Paul wrote to Timothy.
Megachurch leader and author of MegaFest, and Potter's Touch Broadcast, TD Jakes’ bad theology isn’t limited to the Trinity. Over the past few days the Christian blogosphere has exploded with
posts, comments, and articles about TD Jake’s supposed change in his
theological stance concerning the nature of God. According to his supporters from the Elephant Room he’s gone from a
Oneness Pentecostal-based modalist view of God with God being expressed
in 3 separate manifestations, to a now orthodox biblical stance of God
being eternally co-existent as 3 distinct persons yet one God. I don’t agree with his supporters.Daniel Neades blog BetterThanSacrifice.org summarizes much of what’s gone on in the past week. Daniel posted the following in his article “Elephant Room 2: may we now regard T.D. Jakes as Trinitarian and orthodox?”:Notice that the error of modalism is not that it denies God’s working distinctively as Father, Son and Holy Spirit – modalism expressly affirms this – but rather, that it denies the existence of three distinct Persons within the Godhead.Daniel goes on later in the article to state the Athanasian Creed, which could have been a perfect way to determine whether TD Jakes was orthodox. Mark Driscoll and James MacDonald (the two men asking questions of Jakes in the conference) could have asked TD Jakes to affirm his understanding, belief in, and preaching of these central truths by asking him to affirm the Athanasian creed.
However, that’s not what happened. In a conference that was billed as a place where hard-hitting questions were expected, where differing views could stand toe-to-toe and really dig into the understanding of different theologies, TD Jakes was given a pass. The moderators (Driscoll and MacDonald) lobbed slow-toss softballs to TD Jakes, and allowed him to hit these out of the park. TD Jakes even went so far as to requalify his statements about the Trinity in such a way as to straddle the fence. His fellow Oneness Pentecostal friends must be happy. Read Daniel’s article above for more on the exchange that took place.
My concern goes deeper. I began asking myself these questions: If TD Jakes was wrong on the Trinity, what else could he be wrong on? Are there other core areas of doctrine where Jakes falls short? Wouldn’t you know it, he fails to preach the true Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. That’s right. He FAILS when it comes to the Gospel.
The following excerpt is from a well-documented article on Jakes by G. Richard Foster titled ‘“GET READY” FOR T.D. JAKES – THE VELCRO BISHOP WITH ANOTHER GOSPEL’
Essentially, Jakes fumbles the Gospel in his book, ‘The Harvest’. In this book on pp. 46-47 Jakes confuses salvation and sanctification. Here’s the quote from the article:
He then goes on to propose the strangest Gospel to come down the pike in a while.So Jakes believes that being saved DOESN’T make me a son of God?
Jakes’ view can be called a two-tiered salvation or a two-step salvation or perhaps a progressive graduated salvation. His imaginary salvation is based on a distortion of John 1:12-13. It goes as follow:
“Scripture teaches that receiving Christ as your personal Savior does not necessarily make you a son of God, but if you choose to do so, the power (authority) and right to do so is present. … Just being saved does not make you a son of God, …only those who are willing to be led by the Spirit actually realize and manifest the sonship of God.”37
So in Jakes’ view being a son is not something you are, it is only something you can opt to manifest. His teaching is more at home with that of the late cult leader Herbert W. Armstrong, than with orthodoxy.38
Jakes does not realize how nonsensical he sounds when he says one can be saved and not be a son of God. Does he not realize that the terms are interchangeable and that one really means the other? Being “saved” and “being a son of God” are one in the same. The moment we exercise faith in Jesus and accept Him, we are sons. “For you are all sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ,” Galatians 3:26 declares.
Jakes confounds and distorts the salvation process by making a distinction between accepting Jesus as Savior and being a son of God. He says that these are different states arrived at in different ways. The Bible does not recognize Jakes’ false dichotomy.
The truth of Scripture regarding the riches of our salvation is summarized by Thomas R. Edgar:
“Every person who believes in Jesus Christ has their sins forgiven and is immediately justified. The Holy Spirit indwells every believer immediately upon salvation. Every believer has access to God in prayer and has other believers available for fellowship, edification, and counsel. Every Christian has all of this immediately upon justification.”39
If we were to believe Jakes, we would have to believe that receiving Christ and being saved are one thing (doing very little if anything for you, except for being a first step) and being a son of God is something entirely different that you can choose or not choose to become. So you can be “saved” but not really saved. When you decide to be led by the Spirit you then manifest son-ship.
Romans 8:1 indicates, however, that walking in the Spirit is something you can and will do because you are already a son of God. Walking in the Spirit is a privilege and the manifestation of sons. Jakes totally misunderstands and confuses salvation and sanctification.”
HUH?
I would ask Jakes to read this from Scripture:
Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love 5 He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.So to those of you within orthodox Christianity, and ESPECIALLY the folks from the Elephant Room conference, why are you so eager to welcome TD Jakes into the fold?
Ask yourself these questions:
- Has Jakes repented and publicly stated he’s changed his view on the Gospel?
- Has Jakes removed the sale of his book from Amazon since it clearly confuses salvation and sanctification?
- Why did it take a pay-per-view event like this for Jakes to come clean if he has changed his view on the Trinity?
- Why didn’t he come forward publicly about his new ‘Trinitarian’ stance when he prayerfully realized he was in error?
- IF Questions 1 and 2 are answered with a ‘No.’, then should I support TD Jakes? Should I welcome him into the church universal as a orthodox, biblical teacher?
I smell a wolf.
http://apprising.org/2012/01/29/td-jakes-bad-theology-isnt-limited-to-the-trinity/
FINDING GAY-AFFIRMING CHURCHES AND ‘RESPECTING’ GAY RIGHTS
As previously reported, during an interview with the Huffington Post last Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist.
“Absolutely,” he replied.
“I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” Jakes replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”
Jakes said that he thinks homosexuals should find congregations that affirm their lifestyle.
http://christiannews.net/2015/08/10/t-d-jakes-shocked-after-theology-called-into-question-following-remarks-respecting-gay-rights
Essentially, Jakes fumbles the Gospel in his book, ‘The Harvest’. In this book on pp. 46-47 Jakes confuses salvation and sanctification. Here’s the quote from the article:
He then goes on to propose the strangest Gospel to come down the pike in a while. Jakes’ view can be called a two-tiered salvation or a two-step salvation or perhaps a progressive graduated salvation. His imaginary salvation is based on a distortion of John 1:12-13. It goes as follow:
“Scripture teaches that receiving Christ as your personal Savior does not necessarily make you a son of God, but if you choose to do so, the power (authority) and right to do so is present. … Just being saved does not make you a son of God, …only those who are willing to be led by the Spirit actually realize and manifest the sonship of God.”37
So in Jakes’ view being a son is not something you are, it is only
something you can opt to manifest. His teaching is more at home with
that of the late cult leader Herbert W. Armstrong, than with
orthodoxy.38 Coleman asks Jakes how important it is for Christians to believe in the Trinity. Jakes responds:
I think it's very, very significant that we first of all study the Trinity apart from salvation, and first of all that we embrace Christ and come to him to know who he is. Having come to know who he is, then we begin to deal with the Trinity, which I believe is a very complex issue. The Trinity, the term 'Trinity,' is not a biblical term, to begin with.http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/february7/5.58.html
It's a theological description for something that is so beyond human comprehension that I'm not sure that we can totally hold God to a numerical system. The Lord said, "Behold, O Israel, the Lord thy God is one, and beside him there is no other." When God got ready to make a man that looked like him, he didn't make three. He made one man. However, that one man had three parts. He was body, soul, and spirit. We have one God, but he is Father in creation, Son in redemption, and Holy Spirit in regeneration.
Many follow such a man because of sentimental Christianity, following such men do to their ability to sound good, sound godly, but do not take the time to examine what is being preached. Do not fall into this group, be a man, a woman and investigate for yourself and see if what is being taught is the Gospel. God will bless your efforts in ways you will not fully understand for this is the command of God for Christians.
I will greatly rejoice in the LORD,
my soul shall be joyful in my God;
for He hath clothed me with the garments
of salvation, He hath covered me with
the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom
decketh himself with ornaments, an as
a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Isaiah 61:10
Manifest True Worship of God
Richard L. Crumb